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Just phoned UA and they tell me the flight time of the daily, year round, LAX-MELBOURNE is 15 hours and 20 minutes. Headwind coming back from USA to Oz makes all the flights longer. (Tell me about it, groan!)
So the daily, non seasonal MEL-LAX-MEL round trip is about 30 hours official timing, non stop in either direction. If there is a longer daily flight WHAT is it?? Which airline, and destinations?
The requirement is that the flight be regular, for passengers, (i.e not just freight) and be non-stop in both directions.
Over to the expert Flyers out there!
Atlanta - South Africa is longer although it only operates nonstop eastbound. Westbound, a refuelling stop occurs in either the Cape Verde islands or Fort Lauderdale.
It operates four times a week nonstop ATL - Jo'burg and three times a week ATL - Cape Town.
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Distance: atl - jnb 8440 miles
atl - cpt 8130 miles
FYI, jfk - jnb 7970 miles
The JFK - JNB operates daily on the same route unlike ATL flights so this would be the longest that meets your "daily" criteria. However, it, also, is only nonstop eastbound, stopping in Cape Verde islands on the westbound flight.
Flight times:
ATL - JNB 15 hrs. 20 mins.
ATL - CPT 14 hrs. 45 mins.
JFK - JNB 14 hrs. 35 mins.
Remember:
In order to do a fair comparison, with UA's ORD - HKG service, compare the eastbound flight times (ie ATL - JNB with HKG - ORD).
here is another one - operated in july-august only by LY - LAX-TLV , 7549mi , 13:55 hours. TLV-LAX is supposed to take more than 17 hours so there is a stopover in NYC.
Aagh, that's a long trip! I guess my dream trip to Australia will be just that, dreaming for 30 hours! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif
Thanks for the input folks.
OK, so for the record book it seems it is agreed the longest regularly scheduled non-stop flight by any carrier anywhere in the world is MEL-LAX-MEL (or LAX-MEL-LAX!) which is:
15,840 paid flown miles on UA and takes a scheduled 29.5 hours.
BTW, that flight is daily, all year, but if anyone here can locate something that runs a few times a week lets have the input and this thread can stand as the CURRENT definitive statement on this matter! Tango's point on the 'white glove treatment" of UA aircraft ORD-HK (the headwind direction) is a great one .. after all, these things running short of fuel over the Pacific give them almost no options of an emergency landing anywhere!
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P.S. ... that long flight route is not only done by United which has added it as a new service, but of course Qantas have had that non-stop route for years, and their flight according to their new July 1st timetable leaves 5 days a week. I assume alleged miles travelled and route timings are similar.
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bosoxfan45, if u r referring to dr pfp, his missus pfp already advised us to totally ignore him, and never ever travel with him...
in reference to mrs. pfps thread in -travel tips for women-, the phrase he posted here was probably quoted verbatimly from his missus to him...
oh, she also christened him a name only appropriate for a spouse to call...
i guess the wife DOES know best... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif
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I believe the current 'longest' is Chicago-Hong Kong as far as time goes, LAX-Melbourne by distance. Here is how it is listed in UA's timetable:
flight--------distance------time----total time
ORD-HKG-----7793 miles-----15:55-----
HKG-ORD-----7793 miles-----14:20-----30:15
LAX-MEL-----7920 miles-----15:20
MEL-LAX-----7920 miles-----14:10-----29:30
I think it's possible that New York Capetown might be longer but don't have that info.
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AF 273 NRT-CDG 2155-0425+1 6,206 miles => flight time 13:30
This flight is via a polar route, unlike most other flights from Japan to Europe, which are trans-Siberian. I think AF just doesn't want to have all the passengers arriving in CDG at 2 a.m. and stranded there. NRT has a curfew at 10:00 p.m. and AF cannot put off depature later than that.
KL has also at least one flight of a similar kind, not in the evening, though.
It's a codeshare with JD (Japan Air System) -- a partner for NW-KL. I heard JD did not want to pay Ruassia any extra money to fly over Siberia (which makes the flight shorter, though). KL told me that the return flight from Europe is not via a polar route but somewhere else, which is also longer than other Europe-bound flights.
THe flight attendents, that flew the Lax-Syd route were the most wiped out of any. I felt the same way after flying this route
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What's with the passive-agressive hostility seeen on the boards recently. I thought this was a friendly community....
Getting this to top to wipe out the "MileageMoron" closed threads!
UA ORD-HKG is 15:55 and HKG-ORD is 14:25 for a total of 30:20 of in-flight fun....
JFKJNB is nonstop, but JNBJFK stops in SID (Cape Verde) for gas on the northbound leg....
Actually, ATLJNB is longer than JFKJNB....
JFK is 14:35 and ATL is 15:20
JNBATL stops in SID and/or Cape Town and/or FLL for fuel....
Premex .. searches are fine for some things, but less precise for others if you go back a year or even year and a half of so. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif Also the newspaper links provided in those threads have long been archived.
For instance, the Mel-Lax service UA have added is only very recent. Airlines and routes, and timings change pretty fast on many routes.
What is now the longest may not have existed 12 or 24 months ago and vice-versa. The post above about HOURS being longer Chicago to HK but flown miles being less is interesting.
I guess changing the question from "Daily" to "Regular" will allow something like that Atlanta - Jo-Burg to qualify if we find one that goes non-stop BOTH ways. Appreciate your input.
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Not quite the longest, but there's an interesting AF flight between NRT and CDG.
AF 273 NRT-CDG 2155-0425+1 6,206 miles => flight time 13:30
What AF does is they cut fuel and slow down during the journey to arrive as "late" as possible in the morning. You could tell this by comparing it against AF275 1205-1710 which has a flight time of 12:05.
This flight is actually quite popular since it's the last flight out of Tokyo for Europe, and also since it's one of the very few non non-smoking flight.
BTW, speaking of LAX-SYD, I flew this with QF a couple weeks ago and boy that was a long one! Added to the original 14:46 flight time, a couple hours extra was spent for diverting to BNE due to a fog in SYD. Was sure worth the extra $$$s for flying F...
I would expect that any flight in the seat next to Mrs. PfP would seem to be the longest flight.
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When UAL started the ORD-HKG flight I remember a press release saying or an internal employee memo or something saying it is the longest regularly scheduled airline flight in the world. I think that started before the LAX-MEL nonstops (since before MEL stopped in AKL) but I know the ORD-HKG usually goes over 16:00. It is in the timetable at 15:55 I understand because if a flight is *scheduled* over 16:00 the ALPA contract at UAL calls for extra pilots or crew rest or SOMEthing that will dramatically drive up costs (one of the reasons ORD-DEL nonstops were scrapped as well). But I believe it is actually over 16:00 something like 60% of the time, which is causing some discussion not only at ALPA but also at AFA (the flight attendant's union of which I am a member) because of some contractual reasons about what *scheduled* really means.
This subject has been discussed many times here in the past. A quick use of the Search function on "longest" displays:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum1/HTML/001681.html http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum81/HTML/000088.html http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum1/HTML/000751.html http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum94/HTML/000680.html
Since none of these other flights operate yearly, the LAX/MEL still rules.
The United route from ORD to Hong Kong only operates in the Summer and it can put the limits to the test. United only uses its very best 747-400's on this route with a very high ratio of business to coach. The engines used are ones with a proven track record. During heat waves they tow the airplane out to the runway to save every drop of fuel for the flight. It is not uncommon to see fuel coming out of the overflow valves during take-off becuase the tanks are so full.
All airlines have to carry extra crew for flights over 8 hours.
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